Alien v Predator

[Gotetsu]

So, has anyone else seen this movie yet? We saw it yesterday (got a free ticket when I bought the Special Edition of Predator), and I have to say, I was very impressed. A great action flick with just enough of the "horror" elements of the original property films to make it a bit scary.

I think the one part that a lot of peple will have a problem with is the premise. Especially those who have read many/any of the books. But I didn't mind it at all. The story kept itself clean by explaining any inconsistancies in continuity, while keeping a lot of the original continuity intact.

The action was excellent, and the characters were all pretty cool. I actually felt bad for everyone who died (except the Aliens...those icky things can just rot in hell for all I care!).

I highly reccomend this film as an escapist, fun action movie.

[opwunder]

Are you aware that in Predator 2, there was an Alien skull on the wall in the spaceship? Guess they were thinking ahead... 8)

[Wintermute]

I fell asleep during it. Thank god it was my own couch, I'd have hated to actually pay to watch it.

[devlin1]

Are you aware that in Predator 2, there was an Alien skull on the wall in the spaceship? Guess they were thinking ahead... 8)
Well... there was that whole Alien vs. Predator comic that Dark Horse put out, too-- I'm pretty sure that pre-dated Predator 2.

Of the movie and the book, I have only read the book. The book is better.

[Gotetsu]

[quote:5aff6355d2="opwunder"]Are you aware that in Predator 2, there was an Alien skull on the wall in the spaceship? Guess they were thinking ahead... 8)
Well... there was that whole Alien vs. Predator comic that Dark Horse put out, too-- I'm pretty sure that pre-dated Predator 2.

Of the movie and the book, I have only read the book. The book is better.[/quote:5aff6355d2]

Are you talking about this one (http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=4Z2KLGg9l9&isbn=0553565559&itm=3)? Cuz this book was based on the original screenplay that was shot down by Sigourney Weaver in favor of the forgettable Alien 3.

And Winter...to each his own, man. I loved it. Maybe it would have been better on the big screen instead of some pirated download.... :P

[Wintermute]

And Winter...to each his own, man. I loved it. Maybe it would have been better on the big screen instead of some pirated download.... :P

If it wasn't good on a 60' TV, it ain't gonna be good on the big screen. :)

[Cthulhu]

I thought this (http://www.awesomefilm.com/script/Alien3.txt) was the original Alien 3 script.

[Gotetsu]

I thought this (http://www.awesomefilm.com/script/Alien3.txt) was the original Alien 3 script.

That might have been. But my point was that Weaver has it in her contract that she gets to approve any movie made using the "Alien" property. And, since the the first AvP movie didn't feature Ripley, she nixed it.

[Cthulhu]

That makes sense. The one I posted also ditched Rippley entirely and used Hicks and Bishop as the major characters.

[cczernia]

I always wanted to see a movie set in the future with Newt all grown up and kick ass, but done a lot more elegantly than what they did with Jack from Pitch Black (now she's crazy and hot :roll: )

[devlin1]

I thought this (http://www.awesomefilm.com/script/Alien3.txt) was the original Alien 3 script.

Thank you for the link. I will now read this all day instead of doing work.

[Count Zero]

I have heard rather mixed reviews. I hear the action if fun but the plot is a little weak.

A friend of mine said, "It's great if you don't think about it too much and just sit back for the ride."

I thought it was neat that Lance Henrikson is playing the founder of "The Company"

Jonathan

[Gotetsu]

A friend of mine said, "It's great if you don't think about it too much and just sit back for the ride."

Well that's what an ACTION movie is supposed to be for. I don't walk into an ACTION movie looking for thought-provoking elements that make me question the nature of the universe. :roll:

I think the problem is that people take an "Ebertist" point of view. They look for high drama everywhere, and if it's not there, it's not a good film. AvP is an action movie. It has believeable action-movie characters, a solid plot, and was executed well. It makes no pretense to be anything other than an action-suspense movie.

[BreakfastOfChampions]

Yeah Zero. Knock it off. Stop asking for thought in movies. Its either an action flick, or its not.

You're either with us or against us on this one. Don't make us hurt you ;)

[Gotetsu]

Whoa...did that sound like I was attacking Zero? Didn't mean it. Just tried making an observation. :oops:

But yeah...don't make me hurt you anyways! :twisted:

[Count Zero]

Whoa...did that sound like I was attacking Zero? Didn't mean it. Just tried making an observation. :oops:


Thoughtless action movies have their place and I am even in the mood for them sometimes, but AvP is going to be one of those movies I see in the theater when I want to see a movie and there isn't anything better to see.


But yeah...don't make me hurt you anyways! :twisted:

Bring it on little man... :P

Jonathan

[Wintermute]

Well that's what an ACTION movie is supposed to be for. I don't walk into an ACTION movie looking for thought-provoking elements that make me question the nature of the universe. :roll:

Geez, guess most of the action movies I like aren't really action movies.

[Skyman]

[quote:c469cc1908="Gotetsu"]Well that's what an ACTION movie is supposed to be for. I don't walk into an ACTION movie looking for thought-provoking elements that make me question the nature of the universe. :roll:

Geez, guess most of the action movies I like aren't really action movies.[/quote:c469cc1908]

Yes Thelma and Louise is not an action flick :lol:


CZ and Goat...stop it guys I can't stop laughing

[Anonymous]

Thoughtless action movies have their place and I am even in the mood for them sometimes, but AvP is going to be one of those movies I see in the theater when I want to see a movie and there isn't anything better to see.

Could be worse. It could be "Chronicles of Riddick" :wink:

[cczernia]

:withstup:

And that amazing comment would have been by someone other than me.

[Gotetsu]

Ok, I just need to stop posting about movies. Cuz I liked Chronicles of Riddick too. Guess my tastes are slightly ascew from everyone else's... :oops:

Just out of curiosity, what would you guys say was a good action film? Just so I have a frame or reference...

[BreakfastOfChampions]

I liked Kill Bill as an action film.
Oh, and Terms of Endearment.

[Foxbat]

Ok, I just need to stop posting about movies. Cuz I liked Chronicles of Riddick too. Guess my tastes are slightly ascew from everyone else's... :oops:

Just out of curiosity, what would you guys say was a good action film? Just so I have a frame or reference...

Ronin

Daniel

[BreakfastOfChampions]

[quote:9571e55d51="Gotetsu"]Ok, I just need to stop posting about movies. Cuz I liked Chronicles of Riddick too. Guess my tastes are slightly ascew from everyone else's... :oops:

Just out of curiosity, what would you guys say was a good action film? Just so I have a frame or reference...

Ronin

Daniel[/quote:9571e55d51]

Ronin was a good flick!
I didn't like Daniel so much, though. Not enough suspence.

[Gotetsu]

Kill Bill was good, though the "blood spray" effect was a bit over the top. A co-worker is supposed to lend me Vol II, which I heard wasn't as good as Vol I.

Ronin kicked ass, but then again, it was Robert DeNiro. About the only thing he has done that I haven't liked was Rocky and Bullwinkle.

[BreakfastOfChampions]

Kill Bill was good, though the "blood spray" effect was a bit over the top. A co-worker is supposed to lend me Vol II, which I heard wasn't as good as Vol I.

Ronin kicked ass, but then again, it was Robert DeNiro. About the only thing he has done that I haven't liked was Rocky and Bullwinkle.

<sarcasm>
Excuse me, this is action we're talking about. If I wanted Harvard analysis here, I'll watch Felinn- Fell-- er one of those Italian guys. Over the top is almost more syllables than I wanna handle from an action flick

Kill Bill had Broads, Katanas, and School Girl outfits!
and Blood. Lots of Blood
</sarcasm>

Kill Bill 2 is a different movie than Kill Bill 1.

[cczernia]

Kill Bill 2 is a different movie than Kill Bill 1.

Yep, but both of them are awsome. I don't even know what to call them.

[devlin1]

Volcano High. Dead or Alive. And what about the old standbys like Supercop and Hard Boiled? Really, I think if you want great action, you have to turn to Asia. Miike Takeshi, in particular. Any director that can end a movie with two men blowing up the Japans deserves special notice.

[BreakfastOfChampions]

Amost all the Jackie Chan flicks are fun action flicks

[Gotetsu]

Are any of these movies being named really worth much more than "action entertainment?" I'm just wondering, cuz that was a criticism of AvP (and a few other movies I have liked). So, where's the "Thinking Man's Action Movies"??? :?

[Cthulhu]

So, where's the "Thinking Man's Action Movies"???
Go see Santa with Muscles (http://imdb.com/title/tt0117550/) After this, all films are intellectual.

[BreakfastOfChampions]

I was thinking more 'Shakes The Clown' as a thinking man's movie.

[Delco]

Are any of these movies being named really worth much more than "action entertainment?" I'm just wondering, cuz that was a criticism of AvP (and a few other movies I have liked). So, where's the "Thinking Man's Action Movies"??? :?

I agree with you. I like an action movie just for that, so long as the plot isn't so inane that I can't relax enough to enjoy the flick (like most slasher movies, which are really more action than horror).

I think they are talking about movies like Backdraft for a thinking man's action movie. But, then again I loved Demolition Man, Escape from NY, Soldier, and Big Trouble in Little China to name a few.

I haven't seen AvP, though, because it sounds like a video game made into a movie (and I haven't seen a good one of those yet). I'll probably rent it when it comes to video (I don't get to the theaters much anymore), now that I've seen a positive review.

[Wintermute]

Ronin

Daniel

Word! Heat. Crouching Tiger, Hidder Dragon. Tombstone. Unforgiven. Romeo Must Die. Akira. Ghost in the Shell. Princess Mononoke. Mr. Nice Guy. The Replacement Killers.

[BreakfastOfChampions]

The Killer. Man. How could I forget!

[cczernia]

[quote:56f2ce7451="Foxbat"]
Ronin

Daniel

Word! Heat. Crouching Tiger, Hidder Dragon. Tombstone. Unforgiven. Romeo Must Die. Akira. Ghost in the Shell. Princess Mononoke. Mr. Nice Guy. The Replacement Killers.[/quote:56f2ce7451]

How about: The Killer, and Hardboiled.

[devlin1]

I know of a lot of people who'd disagree with you on Crouching Tiger being an action movie. How anyone could not want to just make love to that movie and spoon with it afterwards, I really don't know. I'll say the same about Hero, Shaolin Soccer, and every Zatoichi movie (all 28 of them).

Likewise, while I own or would love to own most of those movies, not all of them are in the "action" genre, even if they do have guys what get blowed up by other guys. Especially Unforgiven.

In the "transportation" genre, though, I have to go with The Transporter. Did you see all the stuff upon which he transported? Holy shit!

[mordraine]

My criteria for a good action movie (or really, any movie) is:

a) story has to make sense
b) characters have to be believable
c) actors have to be competent.

I'll forgive a few holes in the plot if those holes are not relied upon to conclude the movie. And I absolutely cannot stand the Deus Ex Machina mechanism. Bleh.

RE: the Alien movies, actually I like most of the franchise. Alien 1 was truly awesome, and a classic. The crew getting taken out one by one... truly chiling new monster concept. Alien 2 was also likewise awesome, what with the marines and the BFG's and all that. Alien 3 was rather lame in comparison and seemed uninspired. Rehashing the chase scenes from the first two movies, etc. Alien 4 was... well, I kind of liked it but I watched it on TV and wasn't expecting much. But I liked the atmosphere and the characters. I liked the clone Ripley and that the humanistic hero was actually a cyborg.

[cczernia]

In the "transportation" genre, though, I have to go with The Transporter. Did you see all the stuff upon which he transported? Holy shit!

I loved that movie so much I bought. But what other movies are in the "transportation" genre other than The Transporter and Riding Bean???

[devlin1]

I loved that movie so much I bought. But what other movies are in the "transportation" genre other than The Transporter and Riding Bean???
Um... Around the World in 80 Days? Silver Streak? Rat Race? Ronin?

[cczernia]

[quote:35d38ba230="cczernia"]
I loved that movie so much I bought. But what other movies are in the "transportation" genre other than The Transporter and Riding Bean???
Um... Around the World in 80 Days? Silver Streak? Rat Race? Ronin?[/quote:35d38ba230]

Ummm. Canonball Run??? Exactly what qualifies a movie for the Transportation Genre???

[devlin1]

There isn't a transportation genre, you tit. :P

I just think The Transporter is funny because it really does cover nearly every mode of transportation (except the pogo stick). Also, I'm still steadfastly liking Jason Statham based on his work in Lock, Stock and Snatch.

[BreakfastOfChampions]

Smokey and the Bandit?

[mordraine]

The all time bestest transportation genre movie is:

It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World.

[BreakfastOfChampions]

The all time bestest transportation genre movie is:

It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World.

Awesome move.

Rat Race had a very similar feel

[devlin1]

The all time bestest transportation genre movie is:

It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World.

/signed

[cczernia]

There isn't a transportation genre, you tit. :P

I just think The Transporter is funny because it really does cover nearly every mode of transportation (except the pogo stick). Also, I'm still steadfastly liking Jason Statham based on his work in Lock, Stock and Snatch.

How about his performance in "Ghost of Mars" :P

[devlin1]

[quote:c61c858a17="devlin1"]
Also, I'm still steadfastly liking Jason Statham based on his work in Lock, Stock and Snatch.

How about his performance in "Ghost of Mars" :P[/quote:c61c858a17]
*gritting teeth*

Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. Snatch.
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. Snatch.
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. Snatch.
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. Snatch.
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. Snatch.
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. Snatch.
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. Snatch.

Whew. Okay, that's better. Almost lost it for a second there.

[cczernia]

[quote:d9e0953ec1="cczernia"][quote:d9e0953ec1="devlin1"]
Also, I'm still steadfastly liking Jason Statham based on his work in Lock, Stock and Snatch.

How about his performance in "Ghost of Mars" :P[/quote:d9e0953ec1]
*gritting teeth*

Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. Snatch.
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. Snatch.
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. Snatch.
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. Snatch.
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. Snatch.
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. Snatch.
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. Snatch.

Whew. Okay, that's better. Almost lost it for a second there.[/quote:d9e0953ec1]

Ghost of Mars

[Foxbat]

[quote:55ea87bbc9="devlin1"]
In the "transportation" genre, though, I have to go with The Transporter. Did you see all the stuff upon which he transported? Holy shit!

I loved that movie so much I bought. But what other movies are in the "transportation" genre other than The Transporter and Riding Bean???[/quote:55ea87bbc9]

Riding Bean is kick ass!

Daniel

[opwunder]

Just a little trivia...The original Alien movie was a remake....of....It Came From Outer Space! :wink:

[BreakfastOfChampions]

Just a little trivia...The original Alien movie was a remake....of....It Came From Outer Space! :wink:

Now that's groovy!

[Lowly Uhlan]

But I think I remember the very first concept for Alien was for the story to take place on a B-17 bomber, the Alien more like a gremlin. Concept quickly scrapped.

[devlin1]

Wise, that.

[Skyman]

My criteria for a good action flick

1. More action is good...just as long as I don't get too desensitized because then it wont seem worth it because you can throw the kitchen sink at me and I wont get phased
2. Has to keep moving pace wise.
3. Goal or plot is nice but not necessary if 1,2,4,5 elements are met
4. Can I get absorbed in the world presented...AKA: Suspension of disbelief
5. Can the actor react conguently to the action and if not is it funny...that's why some bad action flicks are fun to watch. AKA: Hudson Hawk
6. If it has a thinking component does it complement the action or make me more invested in the suspension of disbelief. AKA: Matrix, Pitch Black
7. Can I quote from the movie. AKA: Princess Bride
8. Do I leave the movie feeling like I want to go back for the ride
9. Did it give me more than what I expected
10. Is there some cool crap or ideas


That's what I like in movies with action....Thriller flix is different

[BreakfastOfChampions]

Wise, that.

Indeed, hard to explain the android.

[mordraine]

Non-sequitor: I saw Exorcist: The Beginning over the weekend, and I actually enjoyed it. They built up the atmosphere of evil quite nicely. The actors were top notch and the sets were extraordinary. The ending was even okay. Not great but okay. I thought the move from building up of suspense to having the demon suddenly appear was a little too jarring. But other than that, good stuff.

And more importantly - it was fodder for an excellent World of Darkness game!

[Lowly Uhlan]

No androids in WWII.

Anyway, I saw AVP. It would have been good if they would have cut out the parts with the humans. The fight scenes with the predators and aliens were cool. Was looking for any tie in with the Aliens movies (which I love). Lance Henrickson (Bishop, the good android, and later a bad corporate guy)was in it as the big shot corporate guy.

Did his corporation become "The Company"? Hmmm...

[Gotetsu]

Did his corporation become "The Company"? Hmmm...

Yes. Weyland-Yutani is the merged company that built Hadley's Hope (the colony in Aliens).

Did you catch him doing the knife-trick with the pen? Or the fact that his middle name was Bishop? :)

[opwunder]

I believe the best Thinking man's action movie has its own thread: BLADE RUNNER 8)

[Lowly Uhlan]

[quote:a72a5a2f85="Lowly Uhlan"]Did his corporation become "The Company"? Hmmm...

Yes. Weyland-Yutani is the merged company that built Hadley's Hope (the colony in Aliens).

Did you catch him doing the knife-trick with the pen? Or the fact that his middle name was Bishop? :)[/quote:a72a5a2f85]

No, didn't see the knife trick. Knowing its' there makes me like AVP a lot more though.

What are your sources for Hadleys Hope and Weyland-Yutani? Novels?

[Gotetsu]

I wouldn't classify BR as an "action" movie. It's more of a "detective" movie. Though these days, the line between the two has blurred to the point that it hardly exists. But, for the time, it was not an action movie. Though it did have some cool action in it. :D

[Gotetsu]

[quote:9c37fdd019="Gotetsu"][quote:9c37fdd019="Lowly Uhlan"]Did his corporation become "The Company"? Hmmm...

Yes. Weyland-Yutani is the merged company that built Hadley's Hope (the colony in Aliens).

Did you catch him doing the knife-trick with the pen? Or the fact that his middle name was Bishop? :)[/quote:9c37fdd019]

No, didn't see the knife trick. Knowing its' there makes me like AVP a lot more though.

What are your sources for Hadleys Hope and Weyland-Yutani? Novels?[/quote:9c37fdd019]

Aliens Special Edition DVD set. Got it for my GF for Christmas last year (the box with all four movies). I love her. :D

[Lowly Uhlan]

My roommates's got that boxed set. Will be watching.

[cczernia]

My roommates's got that boxed set. Will be watching.

Your roommate might not have the exact set Gotetsu is talking about. The one your roommate has is an earlier version of the Aliens box set, another one came out recently with more special features. But you might want to check with your roommate to make sure. :wink:

[Skyman]

[quote:83bb822a17="Lowly Uhlan"]My roommates's got that boxed set. Will be watching.

Your roommate might not have the exact set Gotetsu is talking about. The one your roommate has is an earlier version of the Aliens box set, another one came out recently with more special features. But you might want to check with your roommate to make sure. :wink:[/quote:83bb822a17]

That blows. Kinda like LOTR. You buy the movie DVD as soon as its release to find out that 5 months later is the extended version is out with more cool stuff :x

[Gotetsu]

Does this "roommate" have the version with the scene involving the automated sentry guns? That would be the Director's cut (which is what you get with the SE DVD set). And in the beginning, there is a scene involving the guy who runs HH. IN that scene some kids are playing in a hallway near a sign that reads "Weyland-Yutani Corp. - Building Better Worlds"
http://www.alianza.meristation.com/aliensagacorp/alien_images/Orgyutani.jpg

[Gotetsu]

That blows. Kinda like LOTR. You buy the movie DVD as soon as its release to find out that 5 months later is the extended version is out with more cool stuff :x

Actually the Director's Cut of Aliens came out back in 1995. I have a copy recorded from Laser Disc.

[opwunder]

I wouldn't classify BR as an "action" movie. It's more of a "detective" movie. Though these days, the line between the two has blurred to the point that it hardly exists. But, for the time, it was not an action movie. Though it did have some cool action in it. :D

Are you saying :? that an action movie has to be all action? Why could not a movie with "cool action" not be an action movie with say mystery elements or....?

[cczernia]

Does this "roommate" have the version with the scene involving the automated sentry guns? That would be the Director's cut (which is what you get with the SE DVD set). And in the beginning, there is a scene involving the guy who runs HH. IN that scene some kids are playing in a hallway near a sign that reads "Weyland-Yutani Corp. - Building Better Worlds"

I do beleive Uhlan's roommate has that version. I'll have to ask his roommate if he remembers that seen... hold on.
...
...
...

He says, no.

[Skyman]

[quote:e5e464aeba="Gotetsu"]I wouldn't classify BR as an "action" movie. It's more of a "detective" movie. Though these days, the line between the two has blurred to the point that it hardly exists. But, for the time, it was not an action movie. Though it did have some cool action in it. :D

Are you saying :? that an action movie has to be all action? Why could not a movie with "cool action" not be an action movie with say mystery elements or....?[/quote:e5e464aeba]

That gets into the muddy waters of Thrillers or action thrillers....The Thing comes to mind

[opwunder]

[quote:fc01c1aa83="opwunder"][quote:fc01c1aa83="Gotetsu"]I wouldn't classify BR as an "action" movie. It's more of a "detective" movie. Though these days, the line between the two has blurred to the point that it hardly exists. But, for the time, it was not an action movie. Though it did have some cool action in it. :D

Are you saying :? that an action movie has to be all action? Why could not a movie with "cool action" not be an action movie with say mystery elements or....?[/quote:fc01c1aa83]

That gets into the muddy waters of Thrillers or action thrillers....The Thing comes to mind[/quote:fc01c1aa83]

Which one?

[Gotetsu]

I guess my definition of an "action movie" is a movie that would not stand alone should all of the action scenes be taken out, or even severely toned down. Blade Runner would still be a classic movie without the few bits of pure "action" (the only scene that comes to mind is when he chases the chick through the store fronts) in it. It's a lot more cerebral, and the action is only a small part of the whole.

An action movie, on the other hand needs to have "action" (guns firing, fists and feet flying, etc...) in order to move along and make sense. First Blood is a top-notch movie. But it's an action movie to the core. If Rambo hadn't performed all of those violent actions, the movie would have been lame (and very short).

Mind you, I'm not saying that I don't like movies that have no action. Blade Runner is a great movie. No matter how much, or how little "action" it has in it. I'm just a self-professed meathead, and I "prefer" action movies to other kinds of movies. So, I tend to enjoy movies that are long on action and short on drama.

[Count Zero]

[quote:03d8a56a89="devlin1"]There isn't a transportation genre, you tit. :P

I just think The Transporter is funny because it really does cover nearly every mode of transportation (except the pogo stick). Also, I'm still steadfastly liking Jason Statham based on his work in Lock, Stock and Snatch.

How about his performance in "Ghost of Mars" :P[/quote:03d8a56a89]

I was just suprised that movie didn't completely suck... it was almost watchable. :P

Jonathan

[Count Zero]

Action Movies I liked:

Ronin
Borne Identity
Matrix
13th Warrior
A Man Apart (saw it today...wasn't too bad)

These are but a few... just some that came to mind. I like action movies the try to us lots of dialogue as well as ass kicking.

Jonathan

[Skyman]

John Carpenters

[opwunder]

John Carpenters

A totally awsome movie with seamless integration of stop-action animation with live action. While it barely used the original movie for more then basic premise, it still paid homage to the first by restaging two scenes almost exacly the same. I read once that Carpenter tried to get James Arnes to play a role in it but he declined...too bad.

[Lowly Uhlan]

[quote:9c19caf147="Lowly Uhlan"]My roommates's got that boxed set. Will be watching.

Your roommate might not have the exact set Gotetsu is talking about. The one your roommate has is an earlier version of the Aliens box set, another one came out recently with more special features. But you might want to check with your roommate to make sure. :wink:[/quote:9c19caf147]

He's an OK roommate ONLY if he has the right boxed set :twisted:

[Skyman]

[quote:d3e6600617="Skyman"]John Carpenters

I read once that Carpenter tried to get James Arnes to play a role in it but he declined...too bad.[/quote:d3e6600617]

That would have been cool

[opwunder]

[quote:bd8d9fb94f="opwunder"][quote:bd8d9fb94f="Skyman"]John Carpenters

I read once that Carpenter tried to get James Arnes to play a role in it but he declined...too bad.[/quote:bd8d9fb94f]

That would have been cool[/quote:bd8d9fb94f]

Totally, but like the other little visual homages would probably have gone over the heads of most people. "Hey, honey, what's Marshall Dillion doing in this movie, fer cryin' out loud! Oohh, looky the head crawling around!"

[Skyman]

True....I like the video tape scene