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Swords Against Chaos: Here It Begins...

Post by Barrier Peaks » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:44 am

To be more apt: when it begins, it will begin here. Ahem.

So I've got the forum up thanks to Wintermute, and I'll have a companion web log coming along shortly thereafter. I have no timetable for the game; I have nothing more than a basic premise in mind. It's all very embryonic at this stage (or "foetal" as my British friends might say).

I've seen some interest in this game already, so let's start up a roll call of sorts: who's on board?

I reckon we can start with one "turn" per week, and ramp that up if it seems like things are moving along at a spiffy pace.

For those who wish to play, there is the question of character. WFRP's character gen system is, by and large, a crap shoot. It's very random. As such, I'm considering two methods by which to generate characters.

1.) Each player can choose their race (human, Elf, Dwarf, or Halfling), and I will generate two career choices for them based on their choice of race. They pick a career, and I'll roll all the particulars in a completely random manner.

2.) I can generate X number of characters, post the basics (ie, name, race, profession, etc.), and let everyone choose the one that sounds most fun for them to play. This will either be on a first come, first served basis, and/or we can manage some manner of "auction" using Fate points as currency if a specific character is contested by two players.

So...step up, chime in, and make yourselves known. Chaos waits for no one...

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Post by devlin1 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:49 am

I'm in-- what the hell. It'll be my summer gaming while abroad. I'm going to learn a bit about the system, though, and make a ratcatcher of my very own.
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Post by BlanchPrez » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:54 am

I'm in!

I'd be up for playing a dwarf.

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Post by Barrier Peaks » Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:02 am

devlin1 wrote:I'm in-- what the hell. It'll be my summer gaming while abroad. I'm going to learn a bit about the system, though, and make a ratcatcher of my very own.

You'd like a rat-catcher, hm? As mentioned (or, perhaps, implied), I'd prefer to do the specific character generation myself, but I don't mind creating it to your design. If you're set on a rat-catcher, I have no trouble allowing you to play one.

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Post by devlin1 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:21 am

Barrier Peaks wrote:You'd like a rat-catcher, hm? As mentioned (or, perhaps, implied), I'd prefer to do the specific character generation myself, but I don't mind creating it to your design.

Just out of curiosity, is it a concern that I'm going to cheat or something?

Barrier Peaks wrote:If you're set on a rat-catcher, I have no trouble allowing you to play one.

Gotta have a ratcatcher in the party. What other game has "ratcatcher" as a class?
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Post by Barrier Peaks » Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:53 am

devlin1 wrote:Just out of curiosity, is it a concern that I'm going to cheat or something?

Not so much. I'm trying to be fair. Each player isn't going to have an opportunity to create their own character "hands on," and I wanted to make sure that the entire group gets the same sort of treatment.

If the rest of (potential) group has no problem with you creating your character on your own, then I have no problems with it, either.

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Post by smartmonkey » Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:17 pm

So... we still up and running, or...?
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Post by Barrier Peaks » Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:09 pm

Yep, I've just been busy busy busy. Give me until about the middle of this week to get things more or less established. I was also waiting to see if there were any other interested parties hereabouts.

No worries, no worries.

Devlin, are you still on board?

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Post by devlin1 » Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:27 am

Barrier Peaks wrote:Devlin, are you still on board?

I am, but by the middle of this week I'll also be on board an airplane. I may not have much in the way of Internet access from Wednesday until I get to my dorm (actually, it's a three-story, 12-bedroom house) next Sunday.
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Post by smartmonkey » Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:20 pm

devlin1 wrote:I am, but by the middle of this week I'll also be on board an airplane. I may not have much in the way of Internet access from Wednesday until I get to my dorm (actually, it's a three-story, 12-bedroom house) next Sunday.


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Post by Barrier Peaks » Sun Jun 18, 2006 2:30 pm

So, the roster looks thusly:

Smartmonkey: Human something or other.
Blanzprez: Dwarf something or other.
Devlin: Something or other ratcatcher.

That about sums it up, hmm?

Any other players who want in, this is the time to step up. I shouldn't have trouble incorporating folks later.

Do either of the non-Devlin folks mind if Devlin puts his own character together?

On my end, I'll need to generate characters, and finish putting the weblog together. URL TBA.

How familiar is everyone with the setting? For example, if I say you'll be starting in Nuln, does that mean anything to you? I'd like to get a feel for how well-versed you are with the WH world. If you know next to nothing, that's fine: you'll fit in with about 95% of the world's population...

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Post by smartmonkey » Sun Jun 18, 2006 4:56 pm

Nuln would be cool - I've read the new edition of the corebook and the bestiary, so I have a -vague- idea of the geography. Beyond, y'know, Holy Roman Empire on PCP.

Be utterly ruthless generating my character - thats half the fun of WFRP.
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Post by devlin1 » Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:02 pm

smartmonkey wrote:Did I mention I hate you with the passion of a thousand fiery suns?

I'll make a note of it.

BTW, I'm assuming that we're using the WFRP published by Green Ronin. Right?
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devlin1 wrote:BTW, I'm assuming that we're using the WFRP published by Green Ronin. Right?

Right you are.

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Post by devlin1 » Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:28 pm

Barrier Peaks wrote:Right you are.

Good! I just bought it. I have a 20-hour layover in Calgary. Seems like as good a time as any to familiarize myself with the system.

Twenty hours! I totally didn't notice that until yesterday. Sheesh.
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Post by Barrier Peaks » Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:27 pm

Twenty hours, ouch. And here I whined about a two hour lay-over in Chicago last year while on my way to Indianapolis.

When will you be available to start playing?

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Post by devlin1 » Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:44 pm

Barrier Peaks wrote:Twenty hours, ouch. And here I whined about a two hour lay-over in Chicago last year while on my way to Indianapolis.

When will you be available to start playing?

Well, I'll have Net access through Thursday afternoon, but I'm not sure where in my three days (!) of travel I'll have it again. Sunday I move into my housing, so that's probably the best bet.
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Post by smartmonkey » Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:44 pm

Dude, if you'd had had some dice, WFRP chargen could have -easily- filled that layover. It takes like, 20 minutes to make a PC, but holy crap it's fun.
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Post by devlin1 » Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:50 pm

smartmonkey wrote:Dude, if you'd had had some dice, WFRP chargen could have -easily- filled that layover. It takes like, 20 minutes to make a PC, but holy crap it's fun.

I will have some dice, because you never know when you'll need them, and believe me, chargen is one of the ways I intend to occupy my time.
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Post by mordraine » Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:24 am

The Calgary airport may have wi-fi, if you're willing to pay the $6 or so bux for it.
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Post by devlin1 » Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:29 am

mordraine wrote:The Calgary airport may have wi-fi, if you're willing to pay the $6 or so bux for it.

For 20 hours, it may be worth it. What airport was I in that had free wifi? Chicago? Now that's the way to do it.

Coming back I have a layover in Toronto, but only for two hours. Why couldn't it have been the other way around? I'd be down for spending 20 hours in Toronto, but Calgary...?
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Post by mordraine » Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:46 am

Last time I was in Chicago, the wi-fi wasn't free.
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Post by Barrier Peaks » Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:25 am

Alright, I intend to get the game started this week, probably Wednesday night. Anyone who wants to earn 100 XP, complete the 10 Questions and let me know if you'd like to spend the XP on an advance, and if so, where you'd like it to go.

Those of you with books, check your character's advance scheme. Those of you without, let me know who you are and I'll give you some options.

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Post by mordraine » Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:16 am

I'm definitely going with an advance. Don't have my book with me so I'll choose later tonight.
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Post by Barrier Peaks » Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:17 am

Expect some movement on this by this evening, and then we'll be starting up by this weekend. It's been a busy week. I'm still waiting on the 10 Questions from Verminary.

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Post by BlanchPrez » Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:34 am

Barrier Peaks wrote:Those of you with books, check your character's advance scheme. Those of you without, let me know who you are and I'll give you some options.


I have no idea how to use an advance. I'd like to, but I need some help.

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Post by devlin1 » Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:48 am

The short version: you spend XP to improve your character, and each career has an "Advance Scheme" that tells you in what ways you can improve. E.g., Servants can't improve their Weapon Skill, but Outlaws can.

The long version: See Gary.
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Post by Barrier Peaks » Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:12 am

BlanchPrez wrote:I have no idea how to use an advance. I'd like to, but I need some help.

My book's at home, so I'll send you your options tonight/this afternoon.

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Post by mordraine » Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:29 am

I still haven't made up my mind on my advance yet. What's the in-game impact of advancing my Toughness? Do I get additional wound capacity? Or what? I haven't read through the combat portion of the book yet.
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Post by smartmonkey » Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:01 pm

I'll take another point in attacks, thank you. I think my career allows that.

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Post by Barrier Peaks » Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:53 pm

smartmonkey wrote:I'll take another point in attacks, thank you. I think my career allows that.

Bounty Hunter doesn't grant an advance in the Attacks characteristic. Options for advances amongst the present careers are:

Bounty Hunter
WS +5% (0), BS +10% (1), S +5% (0), Ag +10% (0), WP +5% (0), W +2 (0)
Hunter
BS +15% (1), T +5% (0), Ag +10% (0), Int +5% (0), W +3 (0)
Initiate
WS +5% (0), BS +5% (0), T +5% (0), Int +10% (0), WP +10% (1), Fel +10% (0), W +2 (0)
Jailer
WS +10% (0), S +10% (1), T +10% (0), WP +5% (0), W +3 (0)
Rat Catcher
WS +5% (0), BS +10% (0), T +5% (1), Ag +10% (1), WP +10% (0), W +2 (0)

The percentage is the maximum amount you can raise the specified characteristic over the course of the career. The number in parenthesis is the number of advances you've had in that characteristic.

Cost: Improvement
100xp: +5% Advance to Main Profile Characteristic
100xp: +1 Advance to a Secondary Profile Characteristic
100xp: Buy a Talent
100xp: Buy a Skill
100xp: +10% Skill Mastery (ie, taking the same skill twice)
100xp: Enter a New Career
200xp: Switch to a Non-Exit Basic Career

In the case of starting characters, you have all the Skills and Talents of your starting career automatically, so you've no reason to buy Skills or Talents. If you had entered a new career, you'd need to buy all the skills within that career's profile in order to advance to a new career later on.

You can, however, pay 100xp for Skill Mastery. This adds a +10% to your Skill. You can take Skill Mastery in a single skill no more than twice, for a maximum Skill Mastery bonus of +20%.

Does that make sense?

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Post by Barrier Peaks » Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:02 pm

mordraine wrote:I still haven't made up my mind on my advance yet. What's the in-game impact of advancing my Toughness? Do I get additional wound capacity? Or what? I haven't read through the combat portion of the book yet.

Raising your Toughness may raise your Toughness Bonus (TB), since your TB is derived from your Toughness (basically, it's your T divided by 10, dropping fractions). In the case of your character, it would take your Toughness from 37% to 42%, which has the side-effect of raising your TB to 4.

Mechanically, your TB is subtracted from any damage that is inflicted on your character. If damage rolled is reduced below 0 in this way, then you take no damage.

Damage is a big deal. When rolling damage, you traditionally roll 1d10 and add the damage bonus of the weapon or attack to the total. In the case of a generic hand weapon (sword, axe, club, etc.), the bonus is equal to the Strength Bonus (SB) of the character wielding it.

So, a beastman armed with a club with a couple of nails through it inflicts his SB of 3 + 1d10 whenever he hits you. Each point of damage you take is deducted from your Wounds. This should give you some idea of how deadly the system is, especially when your typical character will have 10 Wounds.

Still, damage subtracted from your Wounds isn't actually damage. What your Wound stat represents is the number of points of damage that you can take before you begin to suffer Critical Effects. Critical Effects are bad things.

Anyway...that should give you some idea how important Toughness is.

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Post by mordraine » Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:54 pm

Yeah, okay then. I'm taking my advance in Toughness.
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Post by Barrier Peaks » Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:35 pm

Fair enough.

So, anyone else? Let me know where you'd like your Advances to go, and I'll apply them. I'll post the first scene this Sunday, 7/2.

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Post by BlanchPrez » Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:37 am

I think I'll take +3 wounds, thanks.

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Post by mordraine » Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:07 pm

BlanchPrez wrote:I think I'll take +3 wounds, thanks.

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The way it works is you can only get +1 for the 100xp:

Barrier Peaks wrote:100xp: +1 Advance to a Secondary Profile Characteristic
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Post by BlanchPrez » Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:10 pm

mordraine wrote:The way it works is you can only get +1 for the 100xp:


I see... I think I missunderstood his original lines about what was available.

In that case, I'll take the +5% to toughness.

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Post by Barrier Peaks » Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:08 am

Apologies, but I'm running a bit behind right now. I'll get the next turn posted relatively soon, but I wanted folks to know I hadn't forgotten the game.

I know it's early, but if there are any comments, let me know.

Also, this gives a couple of people time to post responses if they wish to.

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Post by devlin1 » Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:18 pm

I don't want to sound like a poopy head, but what gives, fellow players who aren't Mord? Let's get this show back on the road! I got skill rolls to fail here!
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Post by Barrier Peaks » Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:52 am

I have to say, my life has devolved into insanity.

As a PSA, I just want to say that I'd like to pick this PbP up again after 8/1. Is everyone still interested in going on? I know that at least two PCs didn't reply to the initial post, but I don't know what the reasoning behind that is/was.

If you're still up to playing, shout it out. I've got several thousand words I need to have done by 8/1, which is what's keeping me up at night and away from my other responsibilities.

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Post by mordraine » Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:35 am

I'm still up for it. Heck, I bought the book and everything (not specifically for your game, mind, but I'd like to get some use out of it anyway).
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Post by BlanchPrez » Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:42 am

I'm still up for it.

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Post by devlin1 » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:19 pm

Oh, we have to continue! We can't let all this momentum go to waste!

(Yeah, I'm in.)
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