7-13-04 Con meeting minutes

mordraine · Post by **mordraine** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:14 am

Hey everybody, here's the minutes for last night's Con meeting.

Attendance:
mordraine - chairman
opwunder - treasurer
BlanchPrez - volunteer coordinator
PMvanova - new committee member (welcome!)

Agenda:
Last night the discussion was mostly about MONEY MONEY MONEY!

a) BUDGET. So we figured out a passable budget, which included three categories: publicity, hall, and miscellaneous. Our budget for publicity is currently set at $400. Our budget for the hall is set at $500, and we didn't really come up with a misc budget, but I figure we'll probably spend somewhere in the vicinity of $200-300. So that makes our budget a whopping $1200.

b) FUNDING. We decided on three forms of funding last night. (i) personal contributions from committee members (namely me and opwunder). (ii) pledges from forum members (you guys!), and (iii) sponsorship from gaming stores.

For sponsorship, we decided on three levels:
(1) Headliner status. $1000. This basically will get them top billing. All flyers, poster, and other publicity will say "So-and-so Presents, SandiCon!". It will be prominently displayed in bold font, easy to see. They will also have the option of a sales table at the con. They will get lots of flyers to pass out in their store.
(2) Basic sponsorship. $200. This gets them a mention at the bottom of the flyers, poster and other publicity that basically says "also sponsored by: so-and-so, so-and-so, so-and-so, etc." It will be displayed in smaller font, not so prominent. They also get an option of a sales table if they want it. They will also get flyers to pass out.
(3) Stalls. $30. Basically a sales table at the con. All's they gotta do is pass out our flyers and sell stuff at our con.

c. NAME OF CON: By unanimous vote of members present, the con name was officially renamed from PacifiCon (which was already taken) to SandiCon.

d. DATE OF CON: We decided that we shouldn't worry about the date. October is pretty much unatainable at the moment. We also thought that next spring would be a decent time. It would also allow us to approach Game Towne for sponsorship, since it's far enough away from their Gamefest event, that they might be interested. But basically, the dates are open now and our main area of focus is finding a good location that fits our budget. (note - Holiday Inn Nat'l City fits our budget and if need be, we can hold our con there, but we all thought it would be good to continue searching for a better location, more centrally located).

Action Items:
1. Get the ball rolling on pledges from forums (you'll see a thread pretty soon).
2. Ask for volunteers to get sponsorships (you'll also see a thread on that pretty soon).
3. Get non-profit business status going. Includes setting up checking acct after forms are filed.
4. Create vendor flyer for use in getting sponsorships.
5. More HALL research. We still need to find a place that will fit our budget and is centrally located.
6. Con Website coordination.

opwunder · Post by **opwunder** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:52 am

Mord-
I sent you the flyer and logo via email...I had to play with them, your email kept rejecting them (too large). Let me know that you got them... :P

mordraine · Post by **mordraine** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 11:17 am

~~[quote="opwunder"]~~Mord-

I sent you the flyer and logo via email...I had to play with them, your email kept rejecting them (too large). Let me know that you got them... :P[/quote]

What email did you send 'em to? I haven't received anything at ~~[email]~~mordraine_ap_ailil@hotmail.com[/email] yet...

opwunder · Post by **opwunder** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 11:35 am

~~[quote="mordraine"]~~[quote:3bbc94103d="opwunder"]Mord-

I sent you the flyer and logo via email...I had to play with them, your email kept rejecting them (too large). Let me know that you got them... :P[/quote]

What email did you send 'em to? I haven't received anything at ~~[email]~~mordraine_ap_ailil@hotmail.com[/email] yet...[/quote:3bbc94103d]

I guess my playing didn't work...it looks like they all came back. I am going to send just a text message to your email just to make sure that that much is working...

opwunder · Post by **opwunder** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 10:53 am

Mordraine-
How did you like the flyers? Did you want me to change anything? Are you going to get some printed...do you want me to...or do you want to assign that duty to someone else??? Do I ask too many questions??? :roll:

mordraine · Post by **mordraine** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 12:37 pm

The flyers look good... I'm not super thrilled with the slogan and I'd like to come up with something else...

Anyone have a good slogan for SanDiCon? The one opwunder came up with was "FRPing Insane Diego"...

PMvanova · Post by **PMvanova** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 4:14 pm

check out my page, (http://www.intinityofstars/sandicon.html)
My logo is: 'We got game if you're game!"
If the logo I came up with is the same, with the seagull and beach, then it's there too. I don't remember whether we decided on that one or a different one.

Lame to be sure, but what the heck. If I come up with something better, I'll be sure to get it to you.

mordraine · Post by **mordraine** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 4:52 pm

~~[quote="PMvanova"]~~check out my page, (~~[url]~~http://www.intinityofstars/sandicon.html[/url])

My logo is: 'We got game if you're game!"

If the logo I came up with is the same, with the seagull and beach, then it's there too. I don't remember whether we decided on that one or a different one.

Lame to be sure, but what the heck. If I come up with something better, I'll be sure to get it to you.[/quote]

Right now, I'm pretty hip on opwunder's logo image, which is that of a D30 on what looks like a sandy beach.

BTW, that link you supplied doesn't work! :(

PMvanova · Post by **PMvanova** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 8:19 am

The link didn't work? Oh, that's because I didn't make it a link, doh!
SandiCon Page

BlanchPrez · Post by **BlanchPrez** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:27 am

I know we all decided we like SanDi-Con as the name, but I have been informed by Billiekai (my fiancÃ©) that it sounds "Gay." Apparently, she hears it and thinks "Wow, a convention for Gay Gamers." :P

Just thought I'd share.

Chris

BreakfastOfChampions · Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:44 am

Hmm I didn't think that when I saw the name. So I guess the score is 1-1? ;)

Though now that its been pointed out. *Now* it sounds gay ;)

Color me impressionable

mordraine · Post by **mordraine** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:47 am

How exactly does it sound gay? I admit I'm not entirely up on gay references.

opwunder · Post by **opwunder** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:49 am

Gay???? Ex-squeeze me? And here I forgot to put a rainbow in the distance on the logo.... :roll:

BreakfastOfChampions · Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:52 am

That's because it sounds gay just like mordraine sounds gay. You have to say it with a high squeaky voice with a lisp and a faggy swish of the hips.

It sounds gay like a word without 'orc', 'black', 'death' , 'hammer' or 'scrotum' sounds gay. You know, like any word can sound gay....ehrm...right.

In short I guess if you really want it to sound gay, it can.

Gotetsu · Post by **Gotetsu** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:53 am

[quote="BreakfastOfChampions"]Though now that its been pointed out. *Now* it sounds gay ]

Not that there's anything "wrong" with that... :)

Seriously, keep in mind that this comment comes from a person who is 100% non-gamer. I think it's fine.

BreakfastOfChampions · Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:55 am

[quote="Gotetsu"][quote:2910ec5c9a="BreakfastOfChampions"]Though now that its been pointed out. *Now* it sounds gay ]

Not that there's anything "wrong" with that... :)

Seriously, keep in mind that this comment comes from a person who is 100% non-gamer. I think it's fine.[/quote:2910ec5c9a]

I agree. I honestly never thought about it. Now its...well something to make fun of! Hoo Ha!

mordraine · Post by **mordraine** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:57 am

~~[quote="BreakfastOfChampions"]~~In short I guess if you really want it to sound gay, it can.[/quote]

This is my thought too. Anything can sound gay if you're looking for it.

We're staying with SanDiCon.

Gotetsu · Post by **Gotetsu** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:57 am

Well, considering the large gay-population here in San Diego, this may not be such a bad thing. Might get a bigger turn out.

As long as there's no "Furry LARP" on the schedule. :shock:

BreakfastOfChampions · Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:00 am

~~[quote="mordraine"]~~[quote:04f45bbafb="BreakfastOfChampions"]In short I guess if you really want it to sound gay, it can.[/quote]

This is my thought too. Anything can sound gay if you're looking for it.

We're staying with SanDiCon.[/quote:04f45bbafb]

I dunno. See, I'm worried that it only sounds partially gay. Lets go full out. Is Flamer-Con taken? :P

mordraine · Post by **mordraine** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:01 am

~~[quote="BreakfastOfChampions"]~~I dunno. See, I'm worried that it only sounds partially gay. Lets go full out. Is Flamer-Con taken? :P[/quote]

That's the pyromaniac firefighter con that comes through town every October.

BreakfastOfChampions · Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:07 am

~~[quote="mordraine"]~~[quote:3fc31c7147="BreakfastOfChampions"]I dunno. See, I'm worried that it only sounds partially gay. Lets go full out. Is Flamer-Con taken? :P[/quote]

That's the pyromaniac firefighter con that comes through town every October.[/quote:3fc31c7147]

That would explain the wildfires.

I'll leave the more offensive homoerotic con names to your imagination, filthy as it is.

BlanchPrez · Post by **BlanchPrez** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:03 pm

Woah, I wasn't suggesting we change the name... I like SanDi-Con. I just thought I would pass an outsider's opinion on, is all.

Chris

mordraine · Post by **mordraine** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:10 pm

~~[quote="BlanchPrez"]~~Woah, I wasn't suggesting we change the name... I like SanDi-Con. I just thought I would pass an outsider's opinion on, is all.
[/quote]

Them durn outsiders! Never had any use fer 'em!

BreakfastOfChampions · Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:17 pm

I'm just having fun with it. :)

At least we're not as poorly named as the SD Chocolate Fanciers Convention.

For some reason, the SD-Fudgepack didn't do so well.

Gotetsu · Post by **Gotetsu** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:20 pm

~~[quote="BreakfastOfChampions"]~~For some reason, the SD-Fudgepack didn't do so well.[/quote]

Now THAT'S gay!!! :lolup:

Gotetsu · Post by **Gotetsu** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:23 pm

I just hope they don't confuse us with the
Sandy-Con! A Grease Celebration!

BreakfastOfChampions · Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:25 pm

Ooh and Sandra-D Con!

Seminars on going from pure to trashy ho!

opwunder · Post by **opwunder** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 3:20 pm

~~[quote="BreakfastOfChampions"]~~
It sounds gay like a word without 'orc', 'black', 'death' , 'hammer' or 'scrotum' sounds gay. [/quote]

I don't know....scrotum sure sounds gay to me... :lol:

mordraine · Post by **mordraine** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 5:49 pm

Scrote-con... Kinda has a ring to it... But I think will stick with SanDiCon. :)

PMvanova · Post by **PMvanova** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 8:42 pm

I still don't see it and I work around four gay guys at my primary job.

It must be on your mind for a reason I guess....hmmm....

Keep in mind, that this name was thought up by little ol' me.

45 single mom with three kids, two married and one 14 year old boy.

Now...I've been on vacation for two weeks from the primary job that has the filthiest set of minds in the county other than a porn store.

My sense of humor is a bit rusty but believe me...you have NO idea who you're dealing with.

Ahem.
Now, if we can get on with planning this litte soire....

:D

BreakfastOfChampions · Thu Jul 29, 2004 6:11 am

~~[quote="opwunder"]~~[quote:061ea1cd08="BreakfastOfChampions"]

It sounds gay like a word without 'orc', 'black', 'death' , 'hammer' or 'scrotum' sounds gay. [/quote]

I don't know....scrotum sure sounds gay to me... :lol:[/quote:061ea1cd08]

Lets be honest. Without a defintion, scrotum sounds like some sort of medieval weapon used for getting through heavy plate.

As in "Grognard the Barbarian blugeoned the knight with heavy blows from his two-handed scrotum."

opwunder · Post by **opwunder** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 6:51 am

~~[quote="BreakfastOfChampions"]~~
As in "Grognard the Barbarian blugeoned the knight with heavy blows from his two-handed scrotum."[/quote]

Well, if it took two hands to hold his scrotum.... :o

BreakfastOfChampions · Thu Jul 29, 2004 6:58 am

~~[quote="opwunder"]~~[quote:81dcc966fa="BreakfastOfChampions"]

As in "Grognard the Barbarian blugeoned the knight with heavy blows from his two-handed scrotum."[/quote]

Well, if it took two hands to hold his scrotum.... :o[/quote:81dcc966fa]

See? how manly can ya get?

Skyman · Post by **Skyman** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 9:17 pm

How about:

WErNOTgayCON...well not everyone, just most
NACHOcon...we're like the only ones that use that expression. Could be a Dorito Convention

Bordercon....crossing the boundaries of gaming
SD-RPGcon the Gathering
1con2Rulzthemallcon.....and in the darkness bind them
CoronadoCon...hey I like coronado
CommieCon.....the Pinko Community of RPG players
GrandRPGConsortium....bringing it all under one roof
Underground RPG Illuminati Con......taking over the world one game at a time

Wintermute · Post by **Wintermute** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 11:47 pm

~~[quote="Skyman"]~~
SD-RPGcon the Gathering
[/quote]

I like that one, for some reason. ;)

Skyman · Post by **Skyman** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 10:26 am

~~[quote="Wintermute"]~~[quote:cb81f378f3="Skyman"]

SD-RPGcon the Gathering
[/quote]

I like that one, for some reason. ]

Pretty much sums up what were doing....Reminds me of the Highlander.....there can only be one

PMvanova · Post by **PMvanova** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:33 am

Well if you go with SanDiCon-The Gathering
SDRPG Con The Gathering

Actually, the first does sound good. Short, cyrptic, and reminds people of something iconic and heroic. Like RPG characters...

But... that also may give people the impression that it IS a Highlander convention or alluding to that.
So there we go again... (sigh)

Neuro · Post by **Neuro** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:50 am

~~[quote="Wintermute"]~~[quote:6b1deba674="Skyman"]

SD-RPGcon the Gathering
[/quote]

I like that one, for some reason. ]

I think it's funny. Funny is good. Memorable. Repeatable.

opwunder · Post by **opwunder** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:16 pm

I fear that if we keep getting side-tracked and not making decisions, we will still be trying to decide on a name come spring. Without the most basic criteria, all other considerations become unable to be even begun let alone usable. All of these suggestions have merit, let us decide, though, and move on... 8)

mordraine · Post by **mordraine** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:39 pm

We've already made our decision. The name is SanDiCon. It's catchy and easy to remember. I like the name "SD-RPGcon the Gathering" because of the fact that it's got our site name in it, but it's too long and not easy to pronounce. Not easy to remember by any means.

That is my pronouncement as chairman.

Skyman · Post by **Skyman** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:25 pm

~~[quote="mordraine"]~~We've already made our decision. The name is SanDiCon. It's catchy and easy to remember. I like the name "SD-RPGcon the Gathering" because of the fact that it's got our site name in it, but it's too long and not easy to pronounce. Not easy to remember by any means.

That is my pronouncement as chairman.[/quote]

So what's with folks knocking on it as if gay was a bad thing? All hail the chairman! As you say so shall it be. I meant only in jest. Sorry for the distraction

opwunder · Post by **opwunder** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:25 am

Sooo, to get back to Mord's original query: Printed under SanDi Con is a catch phrase. What I had put there was "FRPIN' INSANE DIEGO" and he wasn't overly thrilled by this and asked for suggestions....so suggest away, already...

PMvanova · Post by **PMvanova** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:45 am

In no particular order or sincerity:

SanDiCon - "The RPG Gathering"

SanDiCon - "We got game if you're game!"

SanDiCon - "This game is your game, this game is my game...this motto is lame from.."
(Church lady voice: Never mind)

SanDiCon - "Beachin' RPG man!"

That's about the best I can come up with.

mordraine · Post by **mordraine** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:52 am

~~[quote="PMvanova"]~~SanDiCon - "The RPG Gathering"
[/quote]

Ooooh, this one has a certain ring to it. Nice.

Keep 'em coming! Any other ideas?

cczernia · Post by **cczernia** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:23 am

~~[quote="mordraine"]~~[quote:5795b99de6="PMvanova"]SanDiCon - "The RPG Gathering"
[/quote]

Ooooh, this one has a certain ring to it. Nice.

Keep 'em coming! Any other ideas?[/quote:5795b99de6]

SanDiCon - "Bo knows gaming"

BreakfastOfChampions · Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:57 am

SanDiCon - "Sure beats a social actvitiy"

Skyman · Post by **Skyman** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 12:05 pm

SanDiCon-"Tired of playing with yourself?"
"We got game."
"Hind sight is always 20-20...so is a crit to your head."
"An Invitation to San Diego RPG fun."
"Kill a Dragon, save the universe and be adored by all the towns people before dinner."
"Getting down and dirty with RPG."
"When running away is not an option."
"Stop downloading porn and get it on!"
"Screw Kerry and Bush, you've got a world to save."
"What you've been dreaming of."
"It's where you 'go' in San DieGO for RPG."

BlanchPrez · Post by **BlanchPrez** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 2:16 pm

~~[quote="Skyman"]~~"Kill a Dragon, save the universe and be adored by all the towns people before dinner."[/quote]

I actually like this one. :)

Chris

BreakfastOfChampions · Thu Aug 05, 2004 2:22 pm

SanDiCon -- "Both hands on the keyboard, you pathetic Nacho!"

Wintermute · Post by **Wintermute** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 2:25 pm

SanDiCon - An excuse to shower.