Next Game - KFC

cczernia · Post by **cczernia** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:50 pm

I know we were having a little trouble deciding what to do after DarkSun. I think Devlin1 answered our question. We could playtest Kerberos Club Fate.

What do the rest of you think?

mordraine · Post by **mordraine** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:11 pm

Yeah!

The current playtest material he sent out is only meant for Chargen, but I'm assuming a second (or third) package will be forthcoming and will include the entire manuscript for doing a campaign.

I'm definitely up for that.

Cthulhu · Post by **Cthulhu** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:35 pm

Cool. I have new fate dice that need using!

Skyman · Post by **Skyman** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:38 pm

devlin1 · Post by **devlin1** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:07 pm

mordraine wrote:The current playtest material he sent out is only meant for Chargen, but I'm assuming a second (or third) package will be forthcoming and will include the entire manuscript for doing a campaign.

Uh... well, maybe not the entire manuscript, but it'll have more information on Archetypes, Social Class, Unrest, and maybe one or two other mechanical bits related to the setting. And some of the sample characters from the book, converted to FATE.

A couple pretty cool playtester-created characters have turned up on the KFC forum on the Arc Dream site, if anybody wants to check 'em out.

devlin1 · Post by **devlin1** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:11 pm

I sent out the next playtest packet this morning; it has more info on Archetypes. I specifically made sure to get it out before you guys did your thing today so you'd have it as a resource. You're welcome.

Question: Can I ask you a question? Assuming the answer is yes, here is the question, preceded by a statement. So you're going to get the statement first, followed by a question which, I hope, you can answer. Ready? Okay, here we go. Just to recap, it'll be statement first, then question, happening right now: I was thinking of coming down there the weekend of the 22nd to playtest. How would that work for you?

mordraine · Post by **mordraine** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:40 pm

I see that no one has responded as of yet to Mike's post.

Mike we're gonna run a reg'lar type campaign on Mondays for KFC. So if you come down for a playtest that would be good, but what are your thoughts? One-shot? A part of our campaign?

Also, since it's a playtest, would you be ok if someone else ran and you played and didn't say anything except observe? (that's Chris's idea - although he said he'll be out of town that weekend.)

I myself am unsure of my schedule for that weekend, otherwise I would've posted a response before now.

devlin1 · Post by **devlin1** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:53 pm

mordraine wrote:I see that no one has responded as of yet to Mike's post.

Mike we're gonna run a reg'lar type campaign on Mondays for KFC. So if you come down for a playtest that would be good, but what are your thoughts? One-shot? A part of our campaign?

A session in your campaign's fine by me, as long as you don't mind doing it on Saturday instead of (or in addition to) Monday.

Also, since it's a playtest, would you be ok if someone else ran and you played and didn't say anything except observe?

I'm totally down for that. I never get to play.

I myself am unsure of my schedule for that weekend, otherwise I would've posted a response before now.

No problem. Let me know when you can. That looks like the only weekend this month I could go down there, and probably the only weekend before OrcCon.

mordraine · Post by **mordraine** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:57 pm

We shall discuss tonight. I'll let you know.

We also have to post more detailed impressions of our Chargen session from Saturday...

mordraine · Post by **mordraine** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:03 pm

OK, most everyone is on for Jan 22 playtest. Chris will not be there, but I believe the rest of us will.

Most likely we'll still be playing our Dark Sun campaign, so I guess this session will be sort of a prequel to our regular campaign that will be starting up after that. I've been drafted into running the game (unfortunately since I don't consider myself a great FATE GM).

Guys - if you don't want to use the characters you created last Saturday, start thinking of a real concept. Otherwise, we can use those.

Simon - I think you arrived late last night, after we discussed this playtest session with Mike on the 22nd. Are you available to do this?

devlin1 · Post by **devlin1** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:05 pm

mordraine wrote:I've been drafted into running the game (unfortunately since I don't consider myself a great FATE GM).

I know I said I'd just be a player and remain otherwise quiet, but it's all right if I criticize your GMing, right?

Skyman · Post by **Skyman** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:38 pm

mordraine wrote:Simon - I think you arrived late last night, after we discussed this playtest session with Mike on the 22nd. Are you available to do this?

yes

mordraine · Post by **mordraine** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:29 pm

devlin1 wrote:I know I said I'd just be a player and remain otherwise quiet, but it's all right if I criticize your GMing, right?

It's only fair, since we'll be criticizing your game all night.

Skyman wrote:yes

Excellent!

cczernia · Post by **cczernia** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:40 pm

A night of criticizing Devlin's game and Mord's GMing. I can't believe I'm going to miss this.

devlin1 · Post by **devlin1** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:59 pm

What time do we want to get together on Saturday, gentlemen?'

Also, Nat's going to join us, so Andy, if we could make sure there's a vacant couch or cot or something for him, that'd be great.

devlin1 · Post by **devlin1** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:53 am

Also, Brian Lee's coming. You may or may not know him. He's a friend of mine and Nat's. He attended a Hyphen-Con once back before it was called Hyphen-Con.

SpaceMonkey · Post by **SpaceMonkey** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:02 am

How many players does that make?

devlin1 · Post by **devlin1** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:06 am

dnd3eplayer wrote:How many players does that make?

You, Andy, Simon, Nat, Brian, me. Anyone else? Albert? John?

jimmy corrigan · Post by **jimmy corrigan** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:18 pm

i'd like to come. i have rehearsals till 2:30pm.

Cthulhu · Post by **Cthulhu** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:05 pm

I'll be there.

Skyman · Post by **Skyman** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:12 am

Put me as a maybe...getting tooth extracted

devlin1 · Post by **devlin1** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:17 am

Skyman wrote:Put me as a maybe...getting tooth extracted

Geez, getting you to show up to this thing is like pulling teeth.

Skyman · Post by **Skyman** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:41 am

devlin1 wrote:Geez, getting you to show up to this thing is like pulling teeth.

ba da dum lol

jimmy corrigan · Post by **jimmy corrigan** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:14 am

say, what time are we meetin'?

Cthulhu · Post by **Cthulhu** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:12 pm

what time are we meetin'.

mordraine · Post by **mordraine** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:40 pm

Let's say 4pm.

mordraine · Post by **mordraine** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:47 pm

Incidentally, Shawnie's making a full turkey dinner for tomorrow. Everything will be provided except BYOB. We have soda too.

devlin1 · Post by **devlin1** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:10 am

mordraine wrote:Let's say 4pm.

4pm.

Skyman · Post by **Skyman** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:20 pm

I think you can tell by this point I cannot make it...this sux:sad:

jimmy corrigan · Post by **jimmy corrigan** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:49 am

droooood, that was fun! thanks for running and hosting, andy. and if you're reading this, shawn, thank you for the sumptuous repast. and as i said, i dig the new game, mike. good show.

devlin1 · Post by **devlin1** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:54 am

"Coming out of my psychotic state -- I want to be a regular whore again."

Good times.

devlin1 · Post by **devlin1** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:31 am

Thanks again to Andy for running and everyone for playing -- it was illuminating and fun.

I'm sitting here unable to sleep thinking about how to simplify this thing, and I think I just cracked the code by taking a few cues from DFRPG. Tell me what you think.

No more character points -- characters start with 30 skill points instead. These are only used to buy skills.
Starting Refresh depends on where you are in the century: 6 for Early Century, 8 for Middle Century, 10 for Late Century. Remember, as the Strangeness spreads and becomes more pervasive, power levels increase.
Custom and Strange skill costs are calculated by adding the trapping values to the skill rating, then applying discounts from Drawbacks. The mandated Drawbacks for custom and Strange skills remain the same.
An Extraordinary Tier skill costs 1 Refresh; Superhuman, 2 Refresh; Cosmic/Unearthly/Ascendant, 4 Refresh; Godlike, 6 Refresh. Refresh can't be reduced below 1.
Each Gift reduces Refresh by 1.
Replace the Refresh Gift with the Skilled Gift: +5 skill points.
Everything else stays as-is.

Thoughts?

SpaceMonkey · Post by **SpaceMonkey** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:22 am

I think i like it. I'll re-do my guy this way and confirm, though i may also change his archetype.

jimmy corrigan · Post by **jimmy corrigan** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:23 am

i like it, mike. more coarse, less fine, point allocation will hopefully feel more streamlined. thanks.

devlin1 · Post by **devlin1** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:25 pm

Well, it offers exactly as much customization without the big pool of points to pay for everything. I initially thought I didn't have a use for DFRPG's way of handling powers, because I didn't want there to just be a big list, but the method of paying for them -- with Refresh -- is perfect for the Tiers.

I pulled that number of skill points out of my ass, though, so I'll have to see if that's too much to start. The standard pyramid capped at Great (+4) is 20 points, so 30's more than enough.

cczernia · Post by **cczernia** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:54 am

First session of KFC tonight at 6. Looking forward to seeing everyone.

jimmy corrigan · Post by **jimmy corrigan** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:56 am

i'm going to be late. start without me. looking forward to gaming tonight, too.

devlin1 · Post by **devlin1** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:13 pm

Gimme a call if you have any questions. Hopefully, you won't have any questions.

devlin1 · Post by **devlin1** » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:58 am

Just one question and it wasn't even KFC-specific? Did nothing else come up?

mordraine · Post by **mordraine** » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:57 pm

Um... Nope, nothing yet. Everyone retooled their characters based on the new rules and the consensus was that the new rules are WAY easier and a lot less time consuming. So there's that.

There was discussion about the Variable trapping - I mentioned that you wanted to give it two trapping costs: Variable per scene: 2, and Variable per session: 1. Are you still going with that?

devlin1 · Post by **devlin1** » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:13 pm

mordraine wrote:Um... Nope, nothing yet. Everyone retooled their characters based on the new rules and the consensus was that the new rules are WAY easier and a lot less time consuming. So there's that.

Well, good. That seems to be the general consensus among the other playtesters, too.

There was discussion about the Variable trapping - I mentioned that you wanted to give it two trapping costs: Variable per scene: 2, and Variable per session: 1. Are you still going with that?

Actually, it's Variable [Scene]: 4 and Variable [Session]: 2. And yeah, I think that's in.

I'm seriously thinking about taking out the Block trapping, and just letting every skill -- physical, mental, or social -- Block in whatever way makes sense. The big reason it was in there was for mind control, but I can do mind control via an aspect maneuver, too, and it'd probably work better.

cczernia · Post by **cczernia** » Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:21 pm

Thanks for the save. It's always nice to know that Mike hotline is there when you need it

I really liked the revised character creation rules. It was a lot easier and I do believe everyone said that the characters abilities were similar.

devlin1 · Post by **devlin1** » Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:24 pm

cczernia wrote:Thanks for the save. It's always nice to know that Mike hotline is there when you need it

I really liked the revised character creation rules. It was a lot easier and I do believe everyone said that the characters abilities were similar.

Yeah, it basically produces exactly the same characters (maybe a little better) with a fraction of the complexity.

cczernia · Post by **cczernia** » Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:29 pm

What is the password to get into the ArcDream forum?

devlin1 · Post by **devlin1** » Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:48 pm

cczernia wrote:What is the password to get into the ArcDream forum?

Oh, it's in the Playtest Packet. You do have the last Playtest Packet, don't you?

Skyman · Post by **Skyman** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:12 am

I will be running late tonight

mordraine · Post by **mordraine** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:39 pm

Question - John and Simon will both be late. Albert will be out (he's in Berkeley). Should we do something else tonight?

cczernia · Post by **cczernia** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:52 pm

mordraine wrote:Question - John and Simon will both be late. Albert will be out (he's in Berkeley). Should we do something else tonight?

If you feel that the game could not go forward without Albert than we should probably wait and do something else. Otherwise we could play some Dominion until John or Simon shows up.

mordraine · Post by **mordraine** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:46 pm

Dominion early on sounds good! We're heading in to a fight scene right at the onset of this session, but we can hand-wave Albert's character if need be.

cczernia · Post by **cczernia** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:56 pm

mordraine wrote:Dominion early on sounds good! We're heading in to a fight scene right at the onset of this session, but we can hand-wave Albert's character if need be.

We'll just say he conceded at the beginning of the game